Really Surprised!

This is one of the few movies I've ever seen where the whole audience broke into spontaneous, loud applause a third of the way in.

While it doesn't offer any answers, it both thrills and makes you think.

By the time the dramatic fireworks start popping off, each one feels earned.

I've seen the first Saw a few times, last time in 2016. First viewing I thought good. Last viewing in 2016, there were no surprises left, so the impression was a C rating for a B movie, maybe 5 stars. At least the story was decent and the acting was well done.Now Saw 2. This movie is garbage all the way around. Very little to recommend. First the story sucks. Very cliché. Our main character is a divorced, estranged father, cigarette smoking, possible alcoholic, corrupt cop that will plant evidence. Not a nice guy. The actor? Donnie Wahlberg. Now I've seen this guy do some decent acting before. But not here. The character is crap, and his actions and dialogue is trash. I can't blame him completely, but he took the job so he's not innocent. He is garbage here. His son, Erik Knudsen adds nothing to the mix. Nothing! His x partner, Dina Meyer, adds nothing, just garbage. The black cop with the bandanna on his head, crap. What's with the bandanna? Tobin Bell as Jigman, crap. He's got maybe 10 seconds of decent dialogue if that. Most of the crap that comes out of his mouth is boring, nonsense. I guess the filmmakers were trying to be a twisted gore fest here. It did not work.This opens with a killing. So, that was one thing the filmmakers did right. No brainer. Then we are introduced to the Donnie having a problem with his son. Let's all get excited for the introduction of these boring/cliché characters. Then the scene of the opening killing with more boring cliché characters, the cops. And then the scene with the SWAT team breaking in on the Jig Guy and finding out via videotape that Donnie's son and 7 other people are trapped and a gas has been released that will kill them in a few hours. Interesting idea. And the clock is ticking idea. All good. However, the execution sucks. The characters are garbage, and the dialogue is garbage. Help me. We are then introduced to the 8 people stuck in Jig's hell. Hispanic/Tough Guy/Drug Dealer, Black Gangster (where's the hip hop music?), Female Prostitute, Female Drug Addict (ended up conspiring with Jig Man, and then becoming the new Jig Woman), Businessman (no clue), Businesswoman (no clue), Donnie's son, Thief (we find out he helped Jig kidnap these people).The garbage that comes out of these kidnapped characters is unbearable. The acting sucked. The only one that seemed to show any type of terror was the businesswoman.We find out that all the kidnapped characters were framed by Donnie. They are disposed of one by one. And for no apparent reason the Drug Dealer starts killing people because he wants to find the number tattooed on the back of the neck. Why not just ask the person to turn around? The camera-work is garbage. Lots of quick edits, like we are going on a roller-coaster ride. The colors are garbage, some kind of green, brown lighting. Just garbage. I don't remember the music, so it wasn't good, but better yet I guess it wasn't horrible either. I did not buy the idea for why Jig decided to trap people into these death games. That he's sick and dying of cancer and people don't know what it is to live, and to deserve to live. And the idea that now, the drug addict is taking over for the same reason. The story is completely convoluted. I hate the dialogue. Lot's of F words, wise cracks, just plain garbage. When Donnie started tearing apart Jigs files, I was thinking maybe now we are going into comedy territory. What the hell was that? Then our screenwriter throws everything into the mix. Donnie starts beating the crap out of Jig. I mean, just add the loonie tunes soundtrack, at least it would be entertainment.This movie is a freaking mess. You can tell the filmmakers have some ideas and some skills, but don't know how to put it together. But dialogue like "Shut the F… Up!" – that's the best you could come up with? The twist end with the drug addict now taking over for Jig – nonsense. Remember the saying "A mind is a terrible thing to waste?" well this movie illustrates that a mind is a terrible thing. The filmmakers come up with a cliché/non original story plot dialogue with garbage actors and cinematography and editing to show us the payload. The payload? Disturbing gore.I hate this movie. I got it in a set of 7 Saw movies. I will rewatch Saw in fast forward so I can properly review it. And watch the other Saw movies, and god I hope they are better. Even if the stories are crap, if the cinematography/lighting/sets/editing/music is decent I can find some entertainment in it.Saw 2 – F, 1. Full on garbage. Quick summery – convoluted, cliché characters and dialogue, garbage kills/gore. Nothing of value.

Saw II, the first of the several sequels in the Saw's franchise. Is it any good as the original, well that would unfortunately be false, but does lives up to it's hope, well let find out.Basically after the events of the previous film, the actual Jigsaw Killer have been revealed to the Authorities as former Factory Worker and dying patient John Kramer, and they track him down to his factory/home, but right before they even Apprehend him, Kramer reveals he have already kidnaps 8 more people, all of which are trapped inside of an unknown building, that seems to be an abandon apartment, and Kramer refuses to reveals the Address. One of the newly victims, is just so happened to be the lead Detective's Juvenile Delinquent of a Son, which soon worries him, and making this be more of a bigger business to him. Meanwhile, the 8 victims who are all different from each other based on their Criminal Records, have no choice but to make it out alive together or else the Nerve Agent that Jigsaw puts inside the Building will kills them, and the goal for them is to find the Antidotes they need for their Survival, and while on the way, they comes upon deadly traps based on the Occupations of these Criminally-behaved Victims.This film is in-fact a good flick, but is different compared to it's predecessor. The use of Characters I will considered Mediocre, some of them such as the lead detective is a-bit of a Jerk but that the meaning of the character much like the doctor from the first film (Now by-a-way, if I sound like I'm bringing-up an Spoiler, well I'm not going to as I'm not trying to either, what you just read wouldn't be anymore as I say something bad to this character, but I'll not mentioned how, that you have to see for yourself), but some of the other characters like some of the victims now I kinda understand they should act like this because they're Bad people and all, but they kinda took the roles too far into making them another group of unlikable characters, with the exception however with the Lead Detective's son, Amanda Young (Who returns in this film from the previous one), the African-American Gangster, and Xavier, the Hispanic Drug Dealer. The son of the Lead Detective was I would say an Emotional character, somewhat related to some, and Amanda was nice to see in this, especially as a main character now. The gangster was a-bit emotional to see too, I loved the scene between him and Xavier, just a very powerful speech, and speaking of which, Xavier was great to see as an secondary Antagonist, he was quite menacing to watch by the end of the film so. One last of the Victims, I want to bring-up so is an Pyromaniac named Obi. He didn't do that much in this movie so, only have one scene, and than boom, he finished, but he was a-bit of a cool character to see, quite quiet which builds him up here, and I wished he was shown a-bit more, like I wished they gives a-bit more of a Personality. The one last character I bring up in general, is no other than Jigsaw himself. It was neat to see him as a main character this time too, and Tobin Bell who did a fantastic job like always, just playing a sick, dying old man. The traps are well-done in this one, my favorite when one of the main victims in this movie, opens a door that he not supposed to open because there's a gun that shoots him through the eye, just brutal. There is one complaint I do have however beside some of the characters, which is pretty much the unrealistic use of Nerve Agent, now Nerve Agent was also what Jigsaw gives to one of his victims in the first movie too, which I didn't brought up in my review of that one because I didn't think it was unnecessary, but I'm bringing it up now because it's a big part of this film, just how come through-out the film, it feels these people are in their for 2-3 hours, they should've dies already because of the poisoning. But oh-well, this did sorta overshadowed by what we seen in this film.So over-all Saw II is in my opinion is a fine sequel, just not the best in the series, but it is worth to watched.

So much of the stuff that happens in this movie is boring and stupid, and none of it makes sense. The main game in SAW II is made up of eight people. Of these eight people, one is a child, two work for jigsaw, one is brain damaged, and one dies immediately so that there are stakes. It never occurred to jigsaw how unfair that is. They're job is to escape from a house full of nerve gas and solve little puzzles along the way, to get little bottles of antidote. All of the traps are stupid. At one point, a Russian man who works for jigsaw has to crawl into a metal box he has been told is called "The Furnace" and get two bottles of antidote. He crawls in and grabs one, then spends a while trying his hardest to grab the second one. Once he does, the door shut, and fire starts to come towards him. In order to open the door, he has to push a button that isn't in any way obscured, but he doesn't because he didn't see it. He never looked behind him. He, a man who works for jigsaw, heard that the box was called "the furnace" and was like "thats probably just a box, I should just go get the antidote, that's probably the trap." Every other trap is also bad. Overall, I would say you should only watch this if you plan on watching every SAW movie.

Saw II continues the tale of modern horror's greatest villain: Jigsaw. This time, 8 people are locked in a brutal test while a detective, the father to one of the victims, and the police try to save them. S2 is a rough, brutal ride. It has been treated unfairly by critics because of the bloodshed. That's just what it uses for scares. Some horror movies use jump scares. Some use tension. This uses violence and uses it reasonably well. It's not always enjoyable as it does get pretty unpleasant at times, but it is undeniably effective. Therefore, it's easy to write it off as a nasty gore-fest, but it counterbalances the gore with thought-provoking thematic material on morals, justice and how far one will go to save themselves. It's a nasty film, but it is effective. It's far from a perfect movie admittedly. The characters aside from Jigsaw and the main detective are weak, the drama is somewhat superficial, it's not as tense as the first one and things are a bit sillier this time. That being said, it's a watchable and reasonably thrilling horror film, although for many it will be a bit much. It's worth watching for all the twists and turns, as you will never see them coming.6/10